Gens @ Windsor Friday Nov 26th/2010

this should be a good game on friday night and i am going to this game with the fan bus looking forward to it GO Gens GO

Should be an interesting weekend, Windsor has a good home record of 8 2 1, Sarnia is 7 5 at home. But the Gens play well on the road too. Nice homestand last week, 7 of 8 pts, Thomas should be in the running for player of the week, 10pts in 2 games. Hope you have a good time on your trip generalsfan4life and bring 4 pts back will ya! GO GENNIES!!!

thx i will i hope for 4 pts this weekend to.

Down 2- 0 early dosn't look good, not a good start, but it's early

3-0 right now. Difference is in goal. Not saying Bailie has been poor, but Windsor is just getting that much better goaltending. As I type this we just got absolutely robbed on the pp.

All I can say is Zador should of had the start.

4-1 wsr. Let this be the story of the game.

Gens with lonnnng pressure in Windsor zone. Many many high quality chances. No goal.

Windsor with some sustained pressure. several high quality chances. Goal.

Gens have to start caring behind their own blue line. Start knocking bodies over. Too many chances at the goal line.

I think it is pretty sad, when the announcers from the other team is continually commenting on the poor defensive coverage by our team, that are converting into goals against. Standing around, there are way too many Windsor players with time in front of our net. No way should they have 4-5 chances on a play....I truly think our defense can play better than they are tonight. Chalk it up to a bad night?

A couple bounces have not gone our way either...but had they, this game would be a lot closer.

I totally agree the Windsor goalie has stood on his head.

The Gens proved again what kind of team they are.....they can't beat teams above 500 records. They win against the bottom feeders, but lose against the good teams. Don't believe me.....take a look for yourself. What is the reason for this? I have no idea.....but it needs to be fixed.

I think it is a challenge when you get a run of 10 or 11 games against weaker teams and then suddenly have to face one of the top teams. It's not easy to suddenly raise your game. When the Gens had a tougher schedule, they were able to be competitive against teams like Ottawa, Niagara, Kingston and London. They either beat those teams or lost by a single goal. Overall, they've picked up half the available points against .500 teams including last night. That isn't so bad if you're beating the teams that you're supposed to beat. I do think though that they will play better against teams above .500 when they have more games against tougher teams and get more accustomed to the higher level of play. They've picked up some bad habits during this easy stretch and were able to get away with them - that was quite evident last night. Now they will correct them and beat Sarnia.

Record against teams above .500
Ottawa 1-1-1
Kingston 1-0-1
Sarnia 1-0-0
Niagara 0-1-0
Saginaw 0-1-0
London 1-0-0
Mississauga 0-1-0
Windsor 0-1-0

Combined 4-5-2

I find it funny when the team is doing great its oh ya awesome but when they lose a game or two its oh they are showing what they really are! This team is good they won't win every game no matter how low or high the other team is you win and you lose, bailie and zador will not win every game they won't be the best every game its junior hockey mistakes are made this is the league where they can make those mistakes...support your team no matter what games they win or lose defense won't be great every game as well let's see you jump in there and see how you perform ill bet not as good as they do on a bad day!

We are a good offensive team,need improvement on defence side of the game,and sorry Baillie lovers he just dosnt have what it take to be an OHL goalie.
I said this before we need a stay at home D'man and a backup goalie that can push Zador but I wouldn't sell the farm to get one.I think next years draft Gen's 1st priority draft a stud on D with there 1st pick.

May as well close the discussion board, or lock topics in which the Generals lose.

It was quite obvious why we lost the game on Friday, I don't think anyone here expects us to win every game.

I see the point "newgensfan" is making. However, it is not as if there is Gens bashing going around. We could have had both goalies in, and I still think we would of lost. Campbell was that good.

Over on the noof, and few members are somewhat shocked at the games shots on goal, vs final score. WSR understood they could rely on their goalie to make those saves. Neither Bailie or Zador (imo) could match that performance save for save. Therefore, one would think Team Defence would take care of that, with the clearing of the puck, and taking bodies down.

It's one loss, and really it's a learning experience. Having said that, I expect a different effort on the D zone tonight. IF nothing else, at least Campbell won't be in goal. lol

I was not bashing the Gens. I will also say that I have never said they are awesome. To be honest, if you read any of my posts I have never said anything either way. I was just pointing out the record they have when they play - 500 teams to + 500 teams. People get all excited when they win a few games against teams that are really not that good. As Beats points out, they are 4-7 against +500 teams.....two of those wins were against Ottawa and Kingston at the start of the season. The Gens have lost to both of them since and on top of that, Ottawa and Kingston have both made moves to better themselves. I don't think it is a secret the Gens need help on the backend with both defence and goal. The Gens probably won't have DeHart or De Haan next year either so they have alot of work to do on defence and net.....even for next year.

Cheers!!

Go Gens Go

sort of lost in the shuffle here.....but am I the only one who thought that Brown intentionally took his own helmet off during his fight? If that is the case, is there not some sort of suspension? OR does it matter that the fight was underway?

ogf wrote:I was not bashing the Gens. I will also say that I have never said they are awesome. To be honest, if you read any of my posts I have never said anything either way. I was just pointing out the record they have when they play - 500 teams to + 500 teams. People get all excited when they win a few games against teams that are really not that good. As Beats points out, they are 4-7 against +500 teams.....two of those wins were against Ottawa and Kingston at the start of the season. The Gens have lost to both of them since and on top of that, Ottawa and Kingston have both made moves to better themselves. I don't think it is a secret the Gens need help on the backend with both defence and goal. The Gens probably won't have DeHart or De Haan next year either so they have alot of work to do on defence and net.....even for next year.

Cheers!!

Go Gens Go

Minor point ... because things weren't lined up right, they were actually 4-5-2 rather than 4-4-3, I just corrected that.

I don't think it's quite fair to say that this equates to 4-7 because the two losses were in a shootout. I know lots of people don't like the loser point for an OT loss but in both of those games, they lost in a shootout. They played 65 minutes of a tie hockey game and in the old days, that would have earned a tie.

I don't think that's a terrible record at all, I don't think Kingston or Ottawa's would be much better.

Like I posted before 4-5-2 is still 4-7 as ogf stated. A loss is a loss, whether it's in regulation, OT or SO. It's the reality of the game. The Gennies overall record reads 13-6-2-2 sure looks good. Makes it look like we are 7 games over 500. Even the standings say we have a .652 winning% (before Sarnia game) . Sorry but we have lost 10 games this year and we are only 3 games over 500.

i wasn't saying anyone was bashing i was just simply stating that when a team loses its this team doesnt have what it takes this team will not this and that, no team will win all games they will have winning streaks they will have losing streaks they will win and lose against high and low teams this team is better then previous years and its good to see! go gens go Bailie yes may not be the best goalie nor is zador and maybe they cant be #1 material but they will not even if they were the best goalie in the league would not win every game

I think the right answer is in between the 13-6-2-2 and 13-10. They are a much better team than 13-10 would indicate. I like counting the OT losses as losses and shootout losses as ties to make the standings look like pre-2004 and that gives you a better picture. By that method, the Gens are 13-8-2.

Feel free to disagree but 65 minutes of a tie game should not be considered a loss.

hockeybeats wrote:I think the right answer is in between the 13-6-2-2 and 13-10. They are a much better team than 13-10 would indicate. I like counting the OT losses as losses and shootout losses as ties to make the standings look like pre-2004 and that gives you a better picture. By that method, the Gens are 13-8-2.

Feel free to disagree but 65 minutes of a tie game should not be considered a loss.

Sorry, still say a loss is a loss. I see your point, but in reality, OTL=OT LOSS, SL=SHOOTOUT LOSS, Key word being LOSS. But some have different perspectives and i respect your view, just not agree! GO GENNIES!!!

Time for a Goalie review , We will not have a chance against .500 plus teams . Defense starts from the Goalie out

Just the facts...... Total goals against 81, which is seventh best out of twenty teams. Goaltending has been decent this year. One loss and the usual suspects revert back to the usual targets with their expertise?????????

Just the facts
Oshawa 7 vs Kingston(.667) 8 GA
Oshawa 5 vs Ice dogs (.646) 6 GA
Oshawa 2 vs Saginaw(.741) 5 GA
Oshawa 2 vs Windsor(.580) 5 GA
Oshawa 5 vs Sarnia (.500) 4 GA

My Point is that if we are going to get into shootouts with .500 plus clubs then we need to keep the puck out of our own net . Hence a bonafide #1 goaltender ,

What happened last night????? Who won? Was the goaltending good? Was there a shootout???? Just the facts !!!!

Ottawa has given up 4 goals or more on 9 occasions and you will see 5 or 6 goals against a couple of times as well including the game where the Generals beat them 6-3 in the nation's capital at the beginning of October. Kingston has given up four goals or more on 12 occasions and Niagara has given up 4 goals or more 11 times. The Generals have given up four goals eleven times which puts them right in the middle of the contending teams in the east, the same number as Niagara. I didn't include Mississauga because having built for the Memorial Cup, they are simply at a whole other level and nobody's going to catch them but even they have give up four or five goals on occasion although as shown by their record, they will still usually win those games.

The Gens goaltending could be better but has not been terrible by any objective measure, it has been average or slightly above average.