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Post by Guest Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:30 pm

This Should be a good test for this young generals team barrie is a good team so Let's GO Gens i'll be watching the game for sure on rogers tv.

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Post by archer_gens Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:01 pm

go gens go
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:17 pm

yup Let's GO Gens i wonder who will start in net for the gens tonight.

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Post by UGENS Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:41 pm

Wow they just switched the game over to the gens from the saber & coytes I was just about ready to call rogers
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Post by hockeybeats Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:46 pm

I was on hold with Rogers when the game suddenly came on. Missed two goals. Way to go Rogers!

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Post by theohl Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:07 pm

UGENS wrote:Wow they just switched the game over to the gens from the saber & coytes I was just about ready to call rogers

on my tv its still showing buffalo and phoenix, what channel is it your looking at? or is it the OHL Action Pack your on?
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Post by hockeybeats Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:18 pm

Action Pack channel 466.

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Post by Guest Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:46 pm

5-5 now the gens blew a 3 goal lead geez *rolls eyes*

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Post by hockeybeats Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:54 pm

That was painful. Hopefully it's a learning experience that will motivate them next game and they won't have so many turnovers trying to close it out.

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Post by Guest Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:55 pm

damnit 6-5 wtf happened bailie let in another cheap goal in,plz go back t zador tomorrow night thx and what the hell is wrong with our defense geez they fell asleep in the 3rd period bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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Post by ogf Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:18 am

ANOTHER Game with the Goals Against. 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by archer_gens Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:26 am

just finished watching the game on cable 10.... feel like crying a little..... unacceptable thats all i have to say.....

I sort of had a feeling that we'd not get points from Barrie.... but you can't blow a 4 goal lead EVER!!!

better luck at home tomorrow night I guess
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:32 am

ya that was a pathtic display of hockey i have ever seen in the 3ed the gens just fall apart and bailie let 2 or 3 soft goals in he should have stopped but didn't . well erie got blown out by the petes tonight 7-1 and so it should be an intresting game tomorrow night against erie. common Gens start Waking up and hanging on to the leads thx .

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Post by gogeneralsgo Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:27 am

The 3rd period was one of the worst periods I have seen a Generals team play in a long time. And we have had a lot of bad periods.
There were veteran forwards who looked like they were out pleasure skating in the 3rd. No backcheck, no hustle... Pathetic.....

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Post by gogensgo Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:14 am

I haven't seen the game but based on the posts about how the momentum changed and they had a meltdown in the 3rd, can anyone summarize what Dips did to try and turn it around. Timeouts, Adjustments, ??

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Post by Popbottle Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:29 am

I went to the game last evening and continue to be disappointed as we get so close and then end up with a loss. I have done some research to try and understand the problem/s.
I note in checking all of the games this year, that the defensemen that have been on for goals against us are as follows:
Hope in 2 games -2
Vallentine in 7 games -16
Wilson in 5 games -10
McDowell in 3 games -6
DeHart in 7 games -9
Dzelski in 7 games - 11
deHann in 3 games -5
Sullentrop in 5 games -5
Some of the above include power plays for the opposition
I have not included the plus for the Oshawa goals these defensemen were on for as only a few players get on for the powerplay .
My observation on the above is that Vallentine and Dzelski who are expected to be leaders have a the most -'s on the team.
The second observation is that you can't continue to give the majority of the ice time to Vallentine, Dehart, Dzelski, and deHaan and not expect them to be tired by the start of the third period.
I believe we have the talent however; they must be better utilized.

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Post by Generalizations Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:48 pm

I'm baffled at why some posters in here blame only the defence and the goalkeeper. I felt our backenders were left hung out to dry by the forwards.

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Post by wannabe Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:11 pm

This team is sorely missing the veteran leadership and experience we had from players like Nagy and Parnham. These guys are gone and can't be replaced so perhaps some moves need to be made. Problem is no team will touch or show interest in Parnham with his injury and the uncertainty it holds. Brown, Valentine and especially hayes, as the captain needs to step it up. If not on the ice then in the dressing room to reel these kids in. Young team and a huge learning curve equals a long season...or 2 seasons if this is the leadership they have to follow.

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Post by Popbottle Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:25 pm

Thanks for the comments following my post.
I am not trying to center out the defense only it is that I believe a good team starts from the Goaltender out to the Defense and then to the forwards.
So I though Baillie was making a good effort, albeit with the apparent soft ones getting by him, but in some instances with the defense problems and as I though too much ice time for too few players were not helping to get him the best help he could get from the defense.
Someone mentioned to me that Coach Spott of the Rangers tried the same thing last year early in the season by using mainly four defencemen and it did not work out, so he went to using the six defensemen, kept their defence partners together and their was improvement over just using the four only.
I have not focused on the forwards that much but for sure Hayes, in my view is a great example with his efforts on the ice.
A few of the other forwards are not passing as much as they could be especially in the offensive zone and are trying to do it all themselves.
As I previously said I believe we have the talent, but need to get it structured with good implementation and follow up with the whole team.

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Post by archer_gens Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:52 pm

it takes 5 to play defence but I mean come on.... they need to take some of the blame
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Post by hockeybeats Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:11 pm

Popbottle wrote:
Hope in 2 games -2
Vallentine in 7 games -16
Wilson in 5 games -10
McDowell in 3 games -6
DeHart in 7 games -9
Dzelski in 7 games - 11
deHann in 3 games -5
Sullentrop in 5 games -5

Are we factoring in ice time here? Valentine sees a lot of ice. I don't have stats but it seems that he's out there a lot so if you're on the ice more, you'll be on for more goals against.

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