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Post by hockeyliving101 Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:12 am

VERYYYYY Impressed with what our team has done so far!!! Anybody think anything else will happen before noon today?

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Post by Peter_Puck Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:24 am

I am pleased with the moves made, they addressed the elephant in the room. Hope this means Maggio will play less so he can play smart. Still thinking we are not done, constantly searching for information online various forums.
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Post by Gens-southern-fanclub Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:32 am

No I think there will be one more move

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Post by steamed Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:34 am

Gens-southern-fanclub wrote:No I think there will be one more move


One more after jimmy McDowell to Erie ?
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Post by Gens-southern-fanclub Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:37 am

Yea because it is reported that it was a swap of d-men So that still leaves to many d

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Post by jaycro Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:45 am

With Hermie gone to get down to three overagers and McDowell going to Erie, as per Doyle on 'loosepucks', they are down to eight which is a little on the heavy side but covers in case of injuries and Brown isn't playing much recently.

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Post by jaycro Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:18 pm

As an addendum, Why wouldn't DePiero try to move McDowell to Saginaw for Brandon Archibald? McDowell is from just outside Lansing, is he not"

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Post by Gens-southern-fanclub Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:20 pm

Because it takes two teams to make a trade

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Post by TipcoSr Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:26 pm

McDowell traded for a 4th rnd in '13 and a 8th rnd in '15.

This makes no sense at all. McDowell was only 1 of a few defence that could come back next year.

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Post by steamed Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:31 pm

TipcoSr wrote:McDowell traded for a 4th rnd in '13 and a 8th rnd in '15.

This makes no sense at all. McDowell was only 1 of a few defence that could come back next year.

Just maybe he wanted to be trade...
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Post by TipcoSr Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:38 pm

Don't like the trade at all. McDowell was probably the most underated on the team and was a stay at home D. The Gens D are now basically OAs and 92s.

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Post by mygens Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:39 pm

hmmmm , well considering we didn't get much for him , it suggests that he wanted a move , he really didn't blossom into the D man i thought he would anyhow , lots of time to replace him , brown will most likely be able to step into a greater role next year

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Post by Gens-southern-fanclub Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:41 pm

No doubt he saw his playing time diminish to nothing in a span of what 24 hours

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Post by jaycro Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:41 pm

I know it takes two teams to make a trade but I still think McDowell for Archibald, plus a pick or two either way, if required, would have been a good deal for both considering Sags is 'dumping' in rebuild mode and Archibald is a 'top four' who would hve helped this year. We'll need help next year, though with only Sullentrop, Carlisle and Brown returning, unless a couple of '92s return! But, if you are going for it, go big!

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Post by mygens Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:43 pm

sullentrop will likely do better playing with one of the new guys !!! together sullen trop and mcdowell were wayyyyy too soft in our end , part of the reason we sit where we do today in the standings

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Post by mygens Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:47 pm

Saginaw probably didn't want him , simple as that ! i wouldn't second guess dipiero right now guys , he has been on a role , no complaints on my end thats for sure

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Post by jaycro Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:11 pm

Hey, it's easy to manage these Jr. A clubs whilst on our butts playing pretend GM., plus you have 'Hindsight" as your assistant GM and no job loss at stake if you screw up!

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Post by Gens-southern-fanclub Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:31 pm

[quote="mygens"]sullentrop will likely do better playing with one of the new guys !!! together sullen trop and mcdowell were wayyyyy too soft in our end , part of the reason we sit where we do today in the standings [/quote]

The problem with the d was not Suellentrop and Mcdowell being to soft it was because maggio hope and quinn are a step (some cases 3 steps) to slow. Stats do not lie and that was why all coaches in this league loved playing against the Gennies. Think what you want but that is the truth

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Post by TipcoSr Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:37 pm

Kind of Funny statements.....Suellentrop is +5, McDowell was +4.....Maggio is -8, Hope was -5 and Quinn is -2

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Post by mygens Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:40 pm

normally + - is a pretty good gage , but it is not the whole story , depends who the D men are playing with and against !..........in any case i think we can agree our D will be vastly improved with these trades and acquisitions !

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Post by TipcoSr Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:02 pm

In the end, this is what the Gens did at the trade deadline...

In
Julian Melchiori
Geoffrey Schemitsch
Matt Petgrave
SSM 2nd 2013
SSM 3rd 2014
OS 4th 2015
ER 4th 2013
ER 8th 2015

Out
Kyle Hope
Mark Petaccio
Jimmy McDowell
OSH 2nd 2015
PLY 2nd 2012
PLY 3rd 2012
OSH 4th 2015
OSH 4th 2016

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Post by jaycro Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:29 pm

So, in a"General" sense, bottom line is the Gens picked up a ton of talent and experience for a net loss of a 2nd? Not bad, Chris!

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Post by Gens-southern-fanclub Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:07 pm

Kuddos to Dips for a great job of getting better defensive talent in here. But unlike mygens opinion if we continue to play maggio and quinn first pairing than it will be all for naught.

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Post by mygens Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:07 pm

nice

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Post by mygens Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:52 pm

lollll i don't know where i ever said maggio and quinn , in fact i was calling for moving Quinn , but thats just me , obviously either their was no interest in him , from other teams or our coaching staff feels he fits better than Mcdowell , i was actually surprised at the mcdowel move , but as jaycro says , we are all armchair Gms here , we don't know ALL the factors in play !!!! what the pairings are will be a mystery to everyone until these guys get to play with each other for awhile

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